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Wednesday 30 November, 2005
#Kill Flu Germs. It's Self-Defence

It not often an advert makes me stop and gape like an idiot, but Domestos' new poster did. In large letters it proclaims

Kill Flu Germs
It's Self-Defence
above a bottle of Domestos Spray. Initially I was just staggered by the cynicism of it. Obviously there's a bit of bird flu curfuffle going on at the moment, and advertisers are going to pick up that. Linking fears of a flu pandemic to flogging bleach seems like a bit of a stretch.

And then I though how? How is a bleach spray going to project me from the flu? Am I supposed to spritz visitors to my house with Domestos? Perhaps a footbath on the threshold of my place of work? In the event of someone sneezing in my vicinity, should I shove the nozzle up each nostril and inhale a healthly germ-killing squirt? Maybe I should gargle with it?

It's idiotic. No, actually, it's fucking idiotic. It's a stupid, stupid advert.

wunderwoman said Complain to the Advertising Standards Authority. As you point out, it's probably a false claim. [added 30th Nov 2005]
anonymous said I thought no publicity is bad publicity - they've got themselves a mention on jezuk so the advertiser men have succeeded ;) [added 30th Nov 2005]
I just filled out a form on the ASA website, although I'm not sure if it's worked properly. After I submitted it, its summary page was completely blank. I'll give them a day or too, then have another go. [added 30th Nov 2005]
Gevs said I did the same thing last year regarding a BA 'cheap flights' advertisment - I also had the blank summary page, but did eventualy get an acknowledgement email. [added 1st Dec 2005]
The ASA have acknowledged this very morning. Fingers crossed they will kick Unilever up the arse. A bit anyway, as Unilever undoubtedly have a very large arse indeed. Does anyone else find it slightly unsettling that the same company that makes Domestos and Surf also makes Hellmann's Mayonnaise, Findus frozen foods and Bertolli olive oil? The cleaning products/food stuff combination just doesn't sit right with me. [added 1st Dec 2005]
Ken [e] said I'm no fan of advertising misdirection, but to be fair Domestos does indeed Kill Flu Germs, if said germs survive long enough out of the human body to be killed: having, say, been snotted onto a kitchen work surface. In effect, I'm protecting myself and my family from flu if I swab down everything with Domestos. However, it's far more likely that I'll be decimating lysteria or e-coli. If the flu germs are on the faux marble then we've probably already got flu.

I agree Unilever's posterior needs a whack but for a parallel reason. The point is surely that here's another example of exploitation of a hot topic, guaranteed to add to the threat zeitgeist. An example recently was a TV newscast along the lines of "Bird Flu - how will it affect Coventry?" Cue five mins of worthless airtime filler...

Small wonder then that too many flu jabs have been squandered this year. [added 1st Dec 2005]

- "I'm protecting myself and my family from flu if I swab down everything with Domestos."

Exactly. Everything including your own lungs.

I did quick bit of research on preventing flu transmission. Nothing I found suggested blasting bleach around the place. The best you could do, once you had flu, was to try and prevent onward transmission by staying at home. Even then, it's probably too late, because you can be infectious even before symptoms manifest.

- "If the flu germs are on the faux marble then we've probably already got flu."

Bingo! [added 1st Dec 2005]
Ken [e] said "I did quick bit of research on preventing flu transmission. Nothing I found suggested blasting bleach around the place."

Check on "killing germs", rather than specifics. Actually Domestos will do a grand job but that's because bacterial germs are not as robust as sci-fi would have us believe. Many germs in fact will snuff it of their accord once separated from a warm moist environment. That's why simple soap and water is so effective and has been for hundreds of years - except of course at Hotel Heartlands ;)

"Bingo"

A far better use of our time, and the best place to spend winter and catch a common cold.

BTW that's another pet hate - those who automatically claim they've "got the flu" when suffering a head cold. But don't get me started. [added 1st Dec 2005]

Pete Ashton said Is "got a kind of flu-ey thing" acceptable? [added 2nd Dec 2005]
planetcutie said Believe me, if you have 'flu, then by god you know it. I had it in 1991 and I couldn't get out of bed for 2 days. The clock was my only entertainment. Even my mother believed I was ill, which took some doing. [added 2nd Dec 2005]
Pete Ashton said Certainly, but using that as a frame of reference for an ailment that is obviously not real flu but significantly more debilitating than a head cold, is that okay? [added 2nd Dec 2005]
andyl said Well influenza isn't caused by a bacterium but by a virus so is likely to be a tad more resistant - however bleach (any bleach) does a fair job. However it doesn't really help. Colds and Flu are typically spread by droplet transmission - coughs and sneezes (either directly or indirectly by people sneezing/coughing into their hands). Wiping down your surfaces doesn't make that much difference to the risk of infection - it does help with some other infections. [added 2nd Dec 2005]
Ken [e] said So, what do we call **massive** cold symptoms coupled with intense, deep ache in the bones, fever, shivers and four days in bed? I've had that, but even I would hesitate to say I'd had the flu. Maybe it was, I'm no expert... Add the trots to the symptoms and I'd say food poisoning ;)) Aaah, perhaps a use for Domestos somewhere! [added 5th Dec 2005]
dzid [e] [w] said hehe Domestos' new poster is really good:P cool blog:D [added 5th Dec 2005]
anonymous said omg i love that advert!!! you stoopid people!!! [added 2nd Oct 2006]

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#[linkfarm] Rumours of a riot
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Tuesday 29 November, 2005
#[elsewhere] I'd love them to make it to the final next time
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Monday 28 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] Arigato, Kobashi - Chum Mark was telling me only this Saturday that he'd seen Kobashi wrestle and his chops were truely a thing of beauty
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#[elsewhere] How do you choose the books that you're going to read?
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#[elsewhere] obviously got up pretty early for a lot of them
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Friday 25 November, 2005
#[Arabica]Node::purgeChild(Node& child)

New DOM extension implemented as a member function on Node. Removes the child from the DOM and deletes it, freeing the memory and nulling out child. After a call to purgeChild, child = 0. This is in CVS now. I've added a couple of tests to SiblingsTest, but it's not been exhaustively tested.

For the rationale see this.

Marv said Sounds very cruel. [added 26th Nov 2005]
Trust me. It's completely humane. [added 26th Nov 2005]
anonymous said "No animals were hurt in the creation of this DOM tree" [added 27th Nov 2005]
Terris Linenbach [e] [w] said Great! Here is the rest of my wish list:

1. The libxml2 wrapper uses a 1024 byte buffer when reading the input source - make it 4096 bytes

2. libxml2's wrapper's formatErrorMsg should use 4096 byte buffer instead of what seems to be meager 1024 bytes

3. Write the encoding in the PI in Stream.h

4. This is a bit controversial but I wish Stream.h stripped out control characters besides the legal ones

5. As you mention in the referenced blog entry, I would like to have a callback whilst the dom encounters a new node

6. Need example for using escaper

7. xslt :) [added 2nd Dec 2005]

Teris [e] [w] said 8. In the DOM.... store element names, attribute names, and namespace URIs in a shared string table in order to avoid memory explosion for semi-large documents that use namespaces [added 7th Dec 2005]
Yep, been thinking about that for ages. [added 7th Dec 2005]
anonymous said Then nodes, XPathValues, etc. could return a const string reference instead of a copy of a string. [added 9th Dec 2005]
terris [e] [w] said When you have some time I would like to also see an example of how to write a Document to an output stream as UTF-8. UTF-8 is my encoding of choice and UCS2 is my internal representation of choice. I think others would benefit from this as well. No rush. [added 18th Dec 2005]
terris said The software here munged "Document" in my previous message -- it should have been Document<wstring> [added 18th Dec 2005]
anonymous said Another one... change NodeList to use size_t instead of unsigned int. [added 18th Dec 2005]
Considered that on and off over the past several years. In the end, I've always decided to stay as close to the DOM spec as I can. It specifies unsigned int, so that's what I've always gone with. [added 19th Dec 2005]

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#[linkfarm] Mr Miyagi has died. - Wax on, wax off. If only life we're really that simple.
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#[Arabica]GCC 4.0.2 is Go!

Just built current CVS through with GCC 4.0.2 on Cygwin. It might be imagination, but it seems significantly quicker that 4.0.

VC++ 2003 also builds through, and I've GCC 3.3 on Darwin going at the moment as does GCC 3.3 on Darwin, with the exception of the XPath tests. There are conflicting assert macros I think - probably just need to juggle some paths.


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Thursday 24 November, 2005
#Hal's Favourite Songs
Gevs said My son James seems to go mad for anything celestial Twinkle Twinkle (hand actions compulsary) and Starsign (Teenage Fanclub) [added 25th Nov 2005]

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#[elsewhere] Agility and OOP are orthogonal
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Wednesday 23 November, 2005
#[elsewhere] "bit of a novelty, but not really useful here"?
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Tuesday 22 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] Compositions for the Young and Old
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#[linkfarm] Bob Mould solo show a Shank Hall gem - Bought the tickets for January. Pete, you're coming whether you like it or not :)

   * Pete Ashton said Okay then. [added 22nd Nov 2005]

And I'll probably be driving, because the public transport options appear to be completely non-existant. Unless you want a seven hour return journey via Newport and Worcestor. [added 22nd Nov 2005]

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#[elsewhere] all children turn into poisonous little virus factories
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#[linkfarm] One in three blames women for being raped - Sorry, I thought this was the 21st century?
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Monday 21 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] Nonce is a funny word that plays a serious role in a number of security implementations. - versim.com appears to be prey to bots - hopefully this will provide an answer
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#[linkfarm] A rugby fan who cut out his testicles with wire cutters to mark a Wales victory is at a loss to explain why he did it. - I'd like to think this isn't the kind of thing you can rationalise ...
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#[linkfarm] IT workers dubbed 'worst dressed' - Yay!
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Friday 18 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] Testing XML - Well, somebody has to
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Thursday 17 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] "Just" use XML - Sam Ruby's talk from XML 2005. Looks pretty essential. For people who work with XML anyway :)
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#[elsewhere] up over your head to night purple
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#[linkfarm] While my ukelele gently weeps
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#[elsewhere] it's not worth being buggered about
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Wednesday 16 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] "An orgasm for every two hours of service is pretty fair." - You'd be knackered at the end of the day though, wouldn't you?
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# Today I wore a Starcraft shirt. My socks were unbranded.
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Tuesday 15 November, 2005
# Today I wore a SuSE Linux t-shirt and Microsoft socks.
Obviously I wore some other clothes too, but they weren't provided by software companies. I paid for them myself.
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#Birmingham Mail - There is no news today

Here we are in Birmingham. The nation's second city. Nearly one million people live here. The Greater Birmingham area is home to over two million people - an area that includes Wolverhampton and Walsall, significant population centres in their own right. Birmingham City Council is the largest local authority in the country. The city has one of the highest levels of public transport usage in Europe. One third of the jewelry manufactured in the UK is made within one mile of the city centre. The city sits at the heart of the motorway, west coast rail and canal systems. There is so much going on here, all the time. I could crap on with the superlatives for ages.

And what's the front page news on tonights Birmingham Mail? Nursery custard scalding.

A FIVE-month-old child was scalded when hot custard was spilled over her as she was being looked after at a day nursery in Birmingham.
Mya Hunt was strapped in her highchair at the Munchkins Day Nursery in Long Meadow Crescent, Shard End, when the accident happened during lunch.
For fucks sake, what the hell is this? But, wait! If this non-fucking-story wasn't bad enough, this isn't news because it's not even new. This custardy accident happened over a month and half ago.
"Six weeks on and she is making a good physical recovery except for a few blemishes. She has not slept through the night, however, since the incident and I am not sure if that is because of her bandages or because she is traumatised."
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Munchkins proprietor Suzanne Holmes said: "An unfortunate event happened in nursery on Thursday, September 22, and the child was immediately taken to a hospital by her parents.
An accident in a nursery that happened two months ago is on the front page of the local paper? What a lot of crap.
Ken [e] said Birmingham Mail - isn't that a "paid for" paper? Chrissakes, I expect that sort of papola from the free shits (sorry, sheets) we get in Solihull. Typical headline: "My Leafy Hell" - 43 year old Silhillian Angela Gobstrap complains about the issue from the 200 year old tree outside her 5 year old house. "I have to clean the bonnet of my BMW X5 at least once a week, and I've suffered no end of mental strain because of the mess on the block paving. I shall have to get a man in."

Sorry, got carried away. Your robust outburst has struck a chord.

I'm sure it was all very scarey for poor little Munchkin Mya, and I sincerely hope this isn't a case of a press-release to bolster a personal litigation case...

Oh, and by the way Jez, kinda like the use of the eff word to further hype up the custard spillage story :) Adds some much needed gusto. [added 15th Nov 2005]

Gevs said It does mention in the article that the parents have been "in touch with a solicitor" - sigh..

There is another 'interesting' story on the b'ham Mail website about a Mortgage Adviser that killed himself be wiring up a plug incorrectly. - The best bit is that he must have taken the plug off in the first place as he wanted to feed the cable through a hole - i'm pretty sure if I gave my 2 year old an old plug and asked him to remember which color went where he'd be able to do it. One nil to the gene pool I think. [added 16th Nov 2005]

Gevs said Last night the Coventry Evening Telegraph headlined with "Two bodies recovered from burned out car" - hardcore!! [added 17th Nov 2005]
Geoff [e] said I gave up on the Mail a long time ago it,s a lost cause.I prefer any Newspaper that,s prepared to kick ass,any ass. The older I get the sicker I get with people who would rather protect their own position than stand up for whats right. [added 17th Nov 2005]

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Monday 14 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] death of wrestler Eddie Guerrero
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#[linkfarm] Bob Mould discusses touring, Madison, and technical innovation
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Sunday 13 November, 2005
#[elsewhere] blind and at random
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Saturday 12 November, 2005
#It's all my fault ...

Joined Pete's GDFAF posse last night to see New York popular beat-combos Schwervon! and Jeffrey Lewis. They were both jolly good and loud and agitated.

Rather meanly, I ribbed Pete about which bands he'd compared other bands to in his reviews thus far. During the gig I even borrowed Pete's pen to write down the bands I thought he might touch on for this gig's review, but didn't tell let him see. I reckon if I can get one reference for each band, then I win. Got up nice and early to read his review, to find he's declared himself to be suffering writer's block. Arse!

<later/>Pete's block has passed, which is good. Hope he was able to get some sleep in the meantime. I'm declaring a draw on the who-sounds-like-who thing. He didn't liken Jeffrey Lewis to anyone, which I think I knew in my heart would be the case, but did compare Nan Turner of Schwervon! to Kristen Hersh or Kim Deal. I have Throwing Muses and The Pixies on my piece of paper, so I reckon that's about equal. The comparison with Hersh is valid I think, but I'm not sure about Deal. I didn't put The Pixies on my list because of any easy-peasy female-vocalist-in-a-guitar-band reason, but because of, well, I don't know really, but that's how they struck me. An attitude, an approach, just something for a moment reminded me.
I have dinner to cook. Excuse me. [added 12th Nov 2005]
Pete Ashton said Should add that I couldn't think of anyone to compare Schwervon to during the gig and it was only at about 5am, after listening to mp3 exercpts, that I went for the Hersh/Deal combo. But these comparisons are merely broad strokes to give the reader a frame of reference, not definitive or anything.

Be interested to know who else was on the list. [added 12th Nov 2005]

For Schweron! I have Throwing Muses, L7, The Pixies, Sonic Youth, Talking Heads, REM, Tom Petty, My Morning Jacket and Guided By Voices. Except I don't think I really mean Guided By Voices, I mean another band on the Buffy soundtrack CD, but I can't think which one. Death Cab for Cutie, maybe? Matt's voice has a definite "young Micheal Stipe" sound, especially when singing unaccompanied. For a moment, in a couple of songs, if their ghost bass player had been made physical and started spanking out dirty, thumping bass riffs, they could have doubled for a fresh-faced Talking Heads.

For Jeffrey Lewis and chums I have The B52s, John Denver, Fleetwood Mac, Big Black, Sonic Youth (again), The Monkees and Neil Young, although they didn't necessarily occur to me in that order. [added 12th Nov 2005]
None of that, by the way, should be taken as a review substitute, or as dismissive, or they were a knock off of, or stole riffs from, or anything other than for a brief moment, they reminded me of whomever. [added 12th Nov 2005]
Marv said You didn't get one reference per band, so you lost ;) [added 13th Nov 2005]
Like I said, I did get two on one. Kristen Hersh sings with Throwing Muses and Kim Deal is The Pixies bassist. [added 14th Nov 2005]
anonymous said You lost, you lost...sorry can't resist [added 15th Nov 2005]
Pete Ashton said You were really on a hiding to nothing with Lewis. I know his stuff realy well so as far as I'm concerned he sounds like Jeffrey Lewis. The idea of comparing him to someone else is just kinda pointless. He sounds like Jeffrey Lewis.

It's like asking you who Bob Mould sounds like.

(and no, I haven't got a clue) [added 18th Nov 2005]

He does sound like Jeffrey Lewis, but comparing him to someone else isn't pointless at all. There are two reason why you might compare one band to another (or one artist to another, or one writer to another or ...). The first to fix them in your own mind - "I like X because they sound like Y" or "I don't like A because they sound like B", or even "I don't like The Futureheads because they sound like XTC, but have none of XTC's playfulness". The other is to give someone else an idea of what they are like - "you might like X because you like Y", "imagine A crossed with B". We could rewrite
Jeffrey Lewis he has two modes, quiet solo songs of maudlin but good humoured self depreciation and loud full-on punk rock.
as
Jeffrey Lewis has a similar dry deliver to Lou Reed, but every now and then goes all Neil Young on his guitar.


While I doubted you would compare Lewis to anyone, there was a chance you might. Ascribing a genre to something is a similar shortcut. My chum Ken once enquired whether I liked "big, depressing science fiction" novels. He could equally well have asked if I like Arthur C. Clarke or Kim Stanley Robinson. In the past, you were happy to describe Lewis's music as "antifolk". When I asked you want the hell that was, you described something I summarised "so it's folk then". Following this gig, I'd describes, as a shorthand, both Schwervon and Lewis as "hardcore". Like Sonic Youth, Big Black, The Pixies and Bob Mould :) [added 18th Nov 2005]

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Friday 11 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] Bob Mould Body of Song Solo Tour Dates
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#[Arabica]Dual Streaming/DOM XML processing

In the one corner you have an XML instance. What you'd like in the other corner is a nice object model of your own devising build and populated from the XML. Easy, right?

Write a SAX ContentHandler, or set of ContentHandlers, to build the objects as you go. That would work.

Build a DOM from the XML and work it over with some XPath queries. The nodes you get back tell what objects to build. That would work, too.

Now consider an XML instance several megabytes long. An instance with lots of optional elements. An instance where the presence or absence of an element, or set of elements, might determine what objects you need to create. The size of the instance tends towards a SAX approach, while its relative complexity tends towards DOM+XPath. In fact, something in between might be more useful - dual streaming and DOM mode.

Of the existing XML processing libraries that I'm aware of, the one that provides the best support for this kind of thing is Elliotte Harold's XOM Java library. This is hardly surprising as Harold is one of the few guys writing XML libraries who really seems to both care and think. His books are good too, I'd recommend both his XML In A Nutshell and Effective XML as indispensible for the jobbing XML slinger.

Dual mode XML processing allows you operate on individual nodes as the DOM is being built. The can be modified, altered or queried in-flight, as it were. XOM uses a node factory class, and implements dual mode by allowing you to substitute an alternative factory. We could do this in Arabica, but my uberuser Terris has an alternative approach using Boost::Function callbacks which looks much more C++ish.

Callbacks are one thing, but there's still the memory issue. XOM builds has its own tree model, that allows nodes to exist seperately from their document. This allows nodes to be trimmed out and discarded. The DOM, which Arabica implements, doesn't. Any node is intimately tied to the document. Even nodes which have been removed (through replaceNode or removeNode) can not be deleted, and must be held in memory until the entire document is discarded. (Basically, without adding a reference to count to every node, there's no way to know if a removed node is still needed or not. The memory overhead of the DOM is large enough as it is ...) To overcome this and allow removed nodes to be *really* removed, the DOM API needs to be extended with something like NodeT::discard() or DocumentT::prune(NodeT node). Something like that, anyway.

So that's where we're going in the next few days, I hope. Watch CVS for code excitement.

Terris Linenbach [e] [w] said This is going to be awesome, I can't wait! [added 19th Nov 2005]

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#[linkfarm] Geek to Live: Tickle yourself with Yahoo! Calendar
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#[linkfarm] Yahoo! GTD
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#This programmer is still available for hire

Feel a bit better this morning. Went for a swim. The local baths reopened after a stretch of remedial building works, and people arn't exactly breaking down the door to use it again. This lends it a rather relaxed air, as it means you usually get a lane to yourself. If a big-boned Scandinavian gave you a rub down and massage afterwards, it would be just like a private health club[*].

Dogger and the cats have joined me in attic. Still haven't shaved though.

* And the baths have appeared in Dalziel and Pascoe as exactly that

allan@allankelly.net said Umm, nothing from the Coffee Grounds until this morning than 10 blogs in one go, is your RSS working?

Early morning swimming is a *good thing* - I go most morning (arn't I good?) - except for this cold I've picked up this week.

On a good morning there can be 3 (yes 3, count them!) ACCU members in the same baths, que Twilight Zone music. [added 17th Nov 2005]

I have been fiddling with it, as you've probably now noticed, but I suspect any hold up may have been at your end.

I usually swim three mornings a week, and do about 1600 metres in a session. Except this week, when I've done about 1km. I too have a cold. At the moment, it feels busy if there are three people in the pool, ACCU members or otherwise :) [added 17th Nov 2005]

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Thursday 10 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] Universal Pictures has acquired rights to the Jon Ronson book "Them," which will be used as the basis for a Mike White script to be directed by Edgar Wright ("Shaun of the Dead").
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#[linkfarm] FreePatentsOnline.com provides fast, easy-to-use access to millions of patents and patent applications.
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#This programmer is available for hire

Seized by such a lethargy it's an effort even to type this. The whole house is in its grip. Badger and the cats haven't bother to join me in the attic this morning. The post didn't make a noise when it came through the letter box. The light through the windows is weak and watery.

<later>Still in the grip. Going to try and reboot myself with a spot of lunch. [added 10th Nov 2005]
JohnH [e] said I have just seen you on the attic cam and you haven't even shaved! You should really try to make some sort of effort for your viewing public. [added 10th Nov 2005]

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Monday 07 November, 2005
#Swan? Gone!

Earlier this year, a swan took up residence at the park. It sculled around in the way swans do, hanging around with the ducks, eating bread and getting its bum bitten. Over time, it got gradually more assertive, hissing at Dogger for instance, and muscling the geese out of the way.

And now it seems to have gone. I've not seen it since Thursday I think. It is pretty dark at 6:30 in the morning, but I'm pretty sure I'd spot a large white bird floating about the place. Hope she's ok.

Pete Ashton said Stupid question, maybe, but don't they migrate for the winter? [added 8th Nov 2005]
Mute swans don't generally, no and those that do migrate to the UK from Eastern Europe for winter. The RSPB website tells me some swans do form winter flocks, so maybe she's done that. [added 8th Nov 2005]
wunderwoman said We have swans on the river opposite us. They will be there - and then not. Perhaps the food supply ran out, or it just got bored. [added 8th Nov 2005]
planetcutie said Maybe the Queen had it killed for her Sunday lunch. [added 9th Nov 2005]
HM Swan Marker assures me that while the HM the Q retains the right to all unmarked swans on open water, she only exercises that right on certain sections of the River Thames.
Frankly, I have no idea what the hell that means. [added 9th Nov 2005]

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Thursday 03 November, 2005
#[linkfarm] Missing red panda spotted in tree
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#[linkfarm] Red panda missing from city park
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Wednesday 02 November, 2005
#Cooking with Pete: Pumpkin and Coconut Soup

Here's what I made with some (tiny quantity) of the pumpkin. This recipe is adapted from one in Amanda Grant's The Joy of Vegan Cooking. It's a top book, and no where near as happy clappy as the title might lead you to think.

If you can't get the mange tout or beansprouts (out of season, no friendly allotment holder to hand, etc), then use one or the other or substitute some of crunchy veg.

OK! Let's go!

  1. Fire up the oven to 220 centigrade. Drizzle some olive oil over the pumpkin and roast for 40 minutes or so.
  2. Make up the rice noodes like it says on the packet.
  3. Gently heat a couple of tablespoons of olive oil. Fry the chilli flakes for a minute or so. Be gentle with quantity and time - if it burns your throat while your cooking it, you've got too much :)
  4. Add the coconut milk, coconut cream, and the stock. Simmer and stir until the cream is dissolved. Add the soy sauce and sugar. Season now, if you're inclined.
  5. Added the bean sprouts, mange tout and carrots. Simmer for another minute.
  6. Drain the rice noodes, and add to the soup.
  7. Mix in the pumpkin chunks.
  8. Throw some chopped coriander leaf over the top, and bing. All done.


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#Friend, I feel your pain
Google referrer : how can i make my small bathroom look bigger
Simon [e] [w] said I was #1 on Google for "small cock" at one point. :-( [added 2nd Nov 2005]

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#[linkfarm] POTATO SPUD THAT LOOKS LIKE A FISH CALLED NEMO
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Today's programming is brought to you by VNC, Equal Exchange Sumatran Takengon Coffee and the letters L, I, N, G, U and A.

anonymous said Lingua! [added 2nd Nov 2005]
Well, you might think that but I couldn't possibly comment [added 3rd Nov 2005]
anonymous said Guanil! [added 4th Nov 2005]
Bang on! [added 4th Nov 2005]

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Tuesday 01 November, 2005
#accu2006 Proposal: accepted
Yay - subsidy. Boo - have to do some work.
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